Its just a silly bear that happens to be yellow guys, nothing to see here.
“The joke is on you! Chinese [and Arabs and Russians] aren’t people” – liberals
https://lemmy.world/comment/19716232
I mean last time I tried pointing out they were being shitty ended with them calling me and others calling it out as racist and shitty as just being overly sensitive
Wanna hear a homophobic joke?
😠
It’s about Drumpfrth and Pootin
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Right? All the time they joke about how Trump is fat and a closet gay. Can’t we just point out how much of a fascist he is and leave it at that?
And they really really hate it when that’s pointed out
I’m almost sure I won’t get a serious answer but how is a joke about a specific person racist? It’s not about stereotypes, just similarity to a cartoon figure. I live in Europe and my head of state looks like Mr Burns (he really does). Is that racism against white people? What is the difference?
You should be staying humble, because there is A LONG and storied history of hatred and violence against chinese people and anti-asian (which includes poles & russians) hate in general in germany. The fact that you don’t think using a yellow-skinned bear as a caricature for an chinese person isnt is evidence for societal normalization of anti-asianism and Orientalism.
The difference is calling an Asian person yellow has a long and very racist precedent. It would be akin to saying Obama looks like Curious George because A) he fucking doesn’t and neither does Xi look like Winnie and B) there are similarly obvious racial connotations between saying a black man looks like a monkey and that an Asian man looks like a literally yellow character.
- I stand corrected. This really is a serious answer. I finally understand the point.
- I still disagree.
When I think Winnie the Pooh I think round face much more than yellow. Yellow is a very common color in cartoons. You can’t deny that. If that was the only reason, there’s a whole pool to chose from.
Comparing black people with non human monkeys plays on the historical “scientific racism” that puts white people on the top and black people somewhere close to apes and Asians somewhere in between (depending on political affiliations). Nowhere in history has anyone put Asians close to bears. Even if the motivation is skin color (which I cannot disprove), the comparison to black people as monkeys falls flat.
Watch lemmy libs twist themselves on how to explain Winnie meme isnt racist
https://lemmy.ml/comment/21791130
it’s just like Israeli criticism…
When I think Winnie the Pooh I think round face much more than yellow.
It doesn’t matter what you think. It what it’s received as. Also check out the first instance of the meme which has 💯 racist connotations. The one with xi and Obama compared to Winnie and… ? To which racial slur does the other character sound similar to?
From what I found, Obama was compared to T*gger. Sure, I see the rhyme and I’m sure it doesn’t matter what I think but I think this is far fetched. Other leaders were compared to other figures in the franchise. If you try to find something, you will. source
Also, this seams to be huge within China. Chinese people mocking their leader and the state censors it. And when people mock their leader, I side with the people, not the leader.
Racist dog whistles tend to sound like they are far fetched. They also have plausible deniability built into them e.g. the OK sign, pepe the frog memes, etc
Fact is: whenever you see some “anti-authoritrian” post the Winnie meme only to “criticize the CCP [sic]” you get a fuck ton of sinophobic comments from western libs below it and the OP never distancing themselves from it and often times doing it themselves too
This at least makes sense. I never encountered it so I’m still not convinced. Can you link some?
Also, this gives me “critiquing Israel is antisemitism” vibes. Might be a false tho. I think it’s important to question all power and all states and I would never be offended when someone mocks my head of state (who does not only look like Burns but resembles him in other ways too)
this seams to be huge within China. Chinese people mocking their leader and the state censors it
You base this on…?
Also, this seams to be huge within China
John Oliver said so, which means it’s true.
Oh yes, this is the kind of reaction I expected from the start. Thank others that they proved me wrong.
People pointing out that a claim has no basis or evidence is proving it wrong
my understanding is that China’s population is largely satisfied with their government, and I can understand that since I’ve seen nothing but endless improvements year over year for the last ten years now, despite constant “china’s about to collapse” and other actually insane propaganda about China so yeah pardon me for thinking you should back up your claim that “calling xi jinping winnie the poo is huge in china (even though the GOVERNMENT will KILL YOU FOR IT)”
Yeah what the hell was that person thinking, asking you to show any evidence for the garbage that you spew without any regard for accuracy
I’ll try to provide a serious answer.
The difference is the long racist history of refering to Asian people as yellow skinned, phrases like “yellow peril” describing fears of Asian immigrants, so it’s not a stretch to see how depicting a Chinese man with cartoonishly yellow skin is racist as fuck.
It would be like depicting a black politician as a monkey, it’s difficult to defend something like that as just a joke against a specific person when there’s such a racist connotation/history there.
.mlol
Edit: me, a dumbass banned from Reddit from suggesting baseball commissioner rob manfred is a fascist who can barely operate this site. Sometimes I read the memes and laugh. Sometimes i just don’t get them. When I don’t understand the meme it’s usually from some .ml place. I don’t know what that means. Sorry if that makes you mad. But stupid people have rights too
Comes to .ml, complains about .ml.
Every time
Serious question: Why do y’all “hurt durr .ml” commenters even bother clicking on posts in our communities? Just block us.
How else are they supposed to feel like they’re superior to another group? It’s just ingrained division bullshit that they haven’t learned to deprogram yet
Because we’re living rent free in their heads, they can’t help themselves.
Dear Liberals
You claim to hate Maoism yet you eliminated the landlords in your heads and let a community live there rent free. Curious.
- Tiny face man
because about 15% of your output is thought provoking and worthwhile, and because we would become insufferably braindead only absorbing only liberal content.
I’d say it’s a great deal higher than 15%, but if your goal is to get opposing viewpoints, why not swap to a more broadly federated instance?
Eh, I’ve not seen enough to get a statistically significant sample of .ml posts, but naturally you (commie) are going to find more of your own propaganda virtuous. As to instance hopping, I don’t use lemmy enough to make it worth researching basically, nor is my goal to get opposing views necessarily, some opposing views are so dogshit they aren’t worth the observation (i.e. anything J.D.Vance or Liz Truss has ever said). Tradmarxists have a consistent lense with which to view the world which leads to coherrent, if not always good, takes.
You’re missing out on most of us commies, though, who are on Grad and Hexbear. Plus, “virtue” has nothing to do with it, as a Marxist-Leninist I find Marxism-Leninism is by far the most consistent and coherent frame of analysis.
really funny watching a reddit liberal cast shade on literally anything when they’re on what seems to be YET ANOTHER completely identical generic liberal shithole instance like piefed.social or feddit.uk or whatever, when they themselves are functionally fucking identical to Reddit
