Alleged gunman faces nine charges including second-degree murder in New York state case
Luigi Mangione is due to appear in Manhattan state court on Monday for the first day of a potentially weeklong proceeding to weigh the legality of evidence gathered during his arrest after the killing of a prominent healthcare executive.
Mangione was apprehended last December in the murder of senior United HealthCare figure Brian Thompson last December. In addition to state-level charges, he faces a Manhattan federal court case.
Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city triggered an intense manhunt for the killer, but also sparked an outpouring of anger at the practices of the US for-profit healthcare industry. Since his arrest Mangione has attracted some enthusiastic supporters, both online and at his court appearances.
Mangione’s legal team has repeatedly pushed for the exclusion of evidence gathered during his arrest at an Altoona, Pennsylvania, McDonald’s restaurant on 9 December 2024. They have claimed that police, who came to the fast-food eatery based on an anonymous tip, did not immediately apprise Mangione of his constitutional rights.
Mangione’s lawyers have argued that because he was not apprised of his rights, his statements to police should not be permitted in court. They also argue that evidence taken during his arrest should be barred, saying they conducted a “warrantless search” of Mangione’s backpack.
This is the crux of the issue.
Ever since the start I’ve been saying he was a suspect and they were tracking him based off of illegally obtained evidence. The whole tip was BS. Some random person (most likely cop or fed) told a fast food worker there was a reward and to call it in, then just left.
They needed an excuse to say they found a suspect, because they found him illegally. It’s actually standard procedure called “parallel investigation”.
But even if the call holds up, they fucked up all the evidence gathering.
I really think he’ll get off on a technicality and trump will try to jail him anyways keep the wealthy happy
It’s actually standard procedure called “parallel investigation”.
The usual jargon is “parallel construction,” in case somebody wants to look it up.
because they found him illegally
Remind me again on what illegal method(s) were suspected to be used?
NYC is covered with cell snoopers…
Very very accurate snoopers, if he had a cell phone they’d have done that quickly without a warrant. And once they had his number from that, they could track him anywhere.
It’s also one of the highest camera densities in the world, if there wasn’t a phone then they likely tapped into every camera and ran facial recognition, again without a warrant.
But that’s just the stuff we know about. A CEO was shot on the street, that’s too close for the oligarchs so I wouldn’t be surprised if they got the government to use the top secret shit that’s supposed to just be for terrorists. Stuff we couldn’t even think of, but might hear about a decade from now once it’s no longer state of the art.
I think GP is alleging that the feds used NSA spy shit to locate Mr. Mangione at the Pennsylvania McDonalds through his burner phone.
But… It is a violation of federal law to spy on an American like that. So the feds have not admitted to that. Instead, they manufactured an anonymous tip, based on legally obtained surveillance video from New York, in order to have a legal reasonable suspicion to question Mr. Mangione.
And then the local cops who responded fucked it up anyway by blocking his path of retreat, which is a functional arrest, and then not Mirandizing. And they also searched the backpack before they had any probable cause to do so, and after they had removed it safely away from Mr. Mangione. Without PC, the cops may search the backpack or Mangione for weapons only (the infamous stop and frisk), but they cannot search the backpack insides if they have removed it away from Mangione. The backpack is no longer a threat at that point
Cops were so thirsty for a conviction they completely broke the chain of custody on their “evidence”. The whole thing should be thrown out
My man is innocent. Was not even there.
Doesn’t look remotely like the guy in that original mugshot they were flashing around.
Right? This has bothered me from the beginning. He’s not the guy in the footage who shoots Thompson, and it’s obvious. But they need someone to take the fall as an example, to protect the rich.
If that was the case, wouldn’t his lawyers have a better argument than “the cops gathered evidence wrong”?
There is wishful thinking, and our own biases about this case, but I feel like if the current story were true, we wouldn’t be splitting hairs about Miranda rights. And to be very clear, from what I understand,supreme court precedent, specifically New York v. Quarles, it has been already established that you don’t actually have to be read your Miranda rights if there is a public safety exception. I imagine that will be main counter argument.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but this sounds like a weak argument from the people who have all the official details of the interaction and narrative they are pushing.
You seem more knowledgeable than I am on this subject, so I would imagine you are correct. It’s just that the guy in the footage who shoots Thompson is clearly someone else. And I’m not the only one who thinks they look like entirely different people. I’ve been confused by how this case has unfolded so far, which could explain how I’m making speculations about why they might’ve planted that evidence. This whole case stinks.
He was eating dinner with me in Estonia the evening that CEO died. He only flew back to the US after that.
Luigi was with me the whole time.
You’re a liar.
He was balls deep in my wife at the time this supposed murder took place.
Confirmed. I saw you watching them bone down while I was peeking through the window. Looked pretty fun, not gonna lie.
Nice house btw, and hot wife. You should be proud.
Sounds like ThePyroPython is your wife
A CEO gets killed - the law, the police, the government are all out in droves to find who done it.
Your relative, a friend, your child even gets killed - eh, chances are likely you could get a cold case or not the desired results you were hoping for when the sentencing comes around. Oh and those thoughts and prayers.
It cannot be anymore clear as day as to who is pocketing the authority to do their bidding. Try and tell me with a straight face that the justice system is in favor of the people.
To be fair, if a child dies…if it wasn’t in a car crash or a school or accidental shooting, it was probably because of people like this CEO.
Those car crashes and shootings are also result of policy put forward by people like this CEO.
Americans get murdered by insurance company CEO’s and their shareholders every day.
too bad hes a low level ceo, the real one was witty before he retired and the BOD. witty dint even care that he died, because uhg was under investigation for INSIDER trading, and its likely thompson was the informant, ready to rat them out for immunity. you can google insider trading and ugh/uhc.
In the women’s restroom, Mangione’s supporters chatted among themselves about this proceeding.
Truely top-tier journalism
That looks bad…if you take it completely out of context
The author just added some levity while writing about his widespread support
[…] One, who sported a satiny sash emblazoned with Luigi in green, appeared to commiserate with another supporter about not being permitted to wear the prom-queen evoking accessory.
Other accoutrements were more straightforward. One supporter wore a shirt stating: “11 minutes of missing body camera footage.”
He’s so hot, OMG
The only crime here is that he is not my husband
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Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city
Gtfo
This BRUTAL ASSASSINATION of a poor little innocent ceo who definitely didn’t profit on the corpses of thousands of people who were denied healthcare specifically because of his own intentional policies. This precious baby ceo was MORDERED in COLD BLOOD by this bloodthirsty
massmurderingimmigrantminoritywho hated him because FREEDOM and the BRAVE and BOLD decision of the ceo to allow poor people to be able to CHOOSE to die via paperworkas a weapon. Surely this ceo who’s name we can’t find for some reason is smiling down on his beloved healthcare industry from the heaven that definitely exists. We hope the ultra powerful and scarymassmurderer Luigi Mangione gets the JUSTICE the people of this country are clamoring for.Yeah, it was as brutal as any other shooting. Do cops shooting kids ever get described as “brutal”?
It’s not like he was beaten to death with a tire iron, or denied treatment and left to a slow and agonizing death that also leaves your family in ruins.
It was just a corrective market force.
How are the court hearings going for the cops that murder family members?
The slaying wasn’t that brutal
A clean, point blank shot to the head is just about as un-brutal as it gets, as far as non-consensual deaths go
A brutal slaying would be taking money from someone for years with the promise that if they get hurt, you will take care of them; and then when that occurs, you force them and their family through tons of beaurocracy before denying their help and consigning them to a slow death.
The editor should be fired for allowing such blatant bias to be published.
It was a suicide. The video was just AI
He had committed enough legal homicide; he was practically asking for it.
I mean did you see how he was dressed?
Mostly in blood, but I have the Wadsworth Constant extension installed. Did it skip something important?
Can someone help me understand? It honestly sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality which to me is fine. I’ve had so many loved ones kicked off health care during terminal diseases and I despise for-profit model of the industry.
But it really seems like he did it, yet I see so many people questioning that. I’m just curious why that is.
People are questioning it because the initial CCTV pictures of the murderer do not match Mangione’s features. They look similar enough for it to be pulled in as evidence - and further supported by the items confiscated from him during his arrest, but then again people are questioning the legitimacy of those things too - but the differences are visible enough for even a mid tier lawyer to argue that the CCTV recording is not of their client.
He is just a fall guy because they were determined to punish someone for the crime of daring to fight back against the ruling class. Just the claim that he was found with the murder weapon and a manifesto proving motive is enough to conclude that.
Even the most insane of murderers don’t carry around everything needed for conviction while out for lunch days later.
Basically it’s people saying:
Prove it
Because the government cant/won’t say how they are so sure it’s him
Couple that with how the wealthy never face consequences in our justice system due to their ability to pay money to lawyers.
And the fact that people want this to be decided by the letter of the law isn’t extreme by any means, it’s literally the point of law. And why people are (rightfully) outraged that they’re trying to include terrorism charges.
It’s just the cops fucked up so much, they’re not going to be able to legally prove anything.
It’s OJ all over again
Difference is OJ murdered his ex wife he regularly physically abused and her lover.
Luigi wasn’t there to begin with. He was chilling at some other dude’s house the whole time.
Y’all need to look at the McDonald’s manager’s 911 call. She says that several customers are coming up to her and telling her it’s the guy from the shooting and then she goes on to describe him as wearing a medical mask and sunglasses, etc.
So some guy who is mostly covered up looks like a guy who is mostly covered up? Yeah right. And you’re telling me a ton of customers recognized him? Wtf
It was a bullshit call, they used NSA surveillance methods to track him. I’m not normally an unhinged conspiracy theorist but this time around I’m absolutely convinced they used everything in their toolbox to track him down since he was a threat to the status quo, instead of the usual school children which the rich are more than happy to sacrifice.
