Tesla CEO Elon Musk said he will begin stepping away from his duties at the so-called “department of government efficiency” starting in May. The announcement
The engineers at Tesla have built some amazing stuff, but the CEO who drove them forward for so long has been holding them back for a while now. Time for Musk to go.
As someone that knew engineers that worked at Tesla. Interviewed and turned down an offer there myself.
As soon as I graduated in 2015 and got a job in silicon valley I quickly learned that literally every real engineer hates Elon. Especially the ones that work at Tesla. And they treat their employees on H1 visas like indentured servants.
Awful piece of shit company. But I respect most engineers that work at it. I’m glad the normies outside of the industry are finally catching on to this. For years I had to explain to my normie friends why Elon is a braindead idiot and they would just nod and not really understand why.
I hope people start to understand that “tech bros” and “people that work in tech” are entirely different people. The SF bay area just happens to be filled with both of them.
Very thankful I don’t live there anymore. This isn’t unique to Tesla either. But Tesla is definitely a perfect example for people to point to and understand now.
Most engineers just wanna make shit. And most companies take advantage of a lot of people that enjoy their profession by overworking and exploiting them to an insane degree. Especially H1 visas. Those guys/gals deserve so much more. Tech needs a massive union push.
Honestly, I’m shocked there hasn’t been a shareholder lawsuit about the Tesla board’s continued support of a CEO who is clearly a liability to the company.
I think they’re in a dicey spot because any investor understands that Tesla is way overvalued, due to its status as a meme stock.
So sure, get rid of Musk for the sake of the business, that does sound like obviously the right move…but at the cost of utterly tanking the share price? Not likely. And make no mistake, getting Musk out of Tesla totally reverses the meme stock status.
Super dicey spot. I expect they’re watching very closely, though. The moment Musk’s presence becomes a long-term net detractor he’s done. Right now there are too many questions still unanswered - does his DOGE stuff (I can’t bring myself to call it “work”, sorry) and closeness to a not-uncorrupt administration benefit Tesla in some way? Does the Cybercab launch deliver on the hype? And does the new Model Y reclaim the spot of best-selling car in the world, making the case for the production-switchover leading to a drop in sales, or is there no way back to the top?
Money talks, and right now money is watching and listening. Jobs was fired from Apple, remember.
It’s one of the many problems with idiotic speculative bubbles. You can’t slowly shrink them, they only pop. I might be totally wrong about that, I don’t have an actual background here, but it sure seems to be what I’ve seen in life.
That could be survivorship bias, though. You’re much more likely to hear about a catastrophic bubble burst than a more responsible executive focused on sustainability reining it in to a less volatile state over a period of years.
I was thinking about that, can’t think of any examples off the top of my head, but you’re right, if it were done successfully, it wouldn’t be something most of us would ever talk about or be aware of.
I do think it generally holds though, there’s a reason the word for the phenomena is “bubble” and not something more suggestive of controlled deflation.
Eh, I know nuanced viewpoints around billionaires aren’t appreciated on the corporate web, let alone the fediverse, but I really don’t think it’s as simple as that. Why did Tesla succeed where other EV companies failed or floundered? And why did Tesla, the company behind the ultra-desirable Model S and its peers, produce the unsellable Cybertruck and fire the entire Supercharger team?
CEOs set the direction and drive the company to deliver on that. And Musk has lost it - from 95% genius and 5% mad to 95% and 5% genius. I honestly feel sorry for him in many ways - which I fully appreciate is a lot easier to say as a non-American right now! He will probably never again know true love or be considered an inspiration to the smart people he seems drawn to. He’s thrown his lot in with a bunch of bastards who would gladly tear down everything he’s built up. I am 100% confident that I will live a happier and more fulfilling life than him, as poor and stressed as I am. Poor sod.
As the edgelord he is, I hope he’ll appreciate his inevitable future epitaph: “You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
There was no 95% genius, he was just a salesman convincing investors that the product line he bought out was going gangbusters. He was right, but he didn’t design the things, he just sold them.
Tesla succeeded because it was founded by and operated by talented people. Tesla is failing because it was acquired by and increasingly controlled by an idiotic narcissist who can’t handle being told “no.”
“Full self driving next year! No? Next year then! No lidar, only cameras! “Crunch” style development! Bulletproof glass! Vegas hyperloop! Stainless steel! Micrometer tolerances!” Everything Tesla did on its own was pretty solid. Everything Musk contributed to design and process was complete and utter shit.
Growth for the sake of growth is the mantra of the cancer cell.
Elon has killed them at company. If when he bought into it, did a little marketing and then backed off and let qualified people design the cars and run the company, Tesla would still be a viable company. Where do they go now? The Cybertruck is a flop on the same scale as the DeLorean, the CEO is a straight up Nazi and Putin collaborator, and they can’t get rid of him or it will kill the company. The choice is either a slow death from keeping Elon, or a quick one from firing him.
Or they can hire me. I can fix it, or at least not do any worse.
Because the two engineers who actually created Tesla made a good product and musky boy immediately snapped it up and made sure to maximize the milking of the ev tax credit system, he’s been fucking it up regularly ever since.
The reason it sucks now is obvious, the people who are good are gone, and musky boy wasn’t one of them.
You treat these parasites as if they are some extraordinary phenomena, they are not. They are humans that shit just like you, sometimes liquid diarrhea. They are by and large not amazing, genius, or even particularly hard working people, they are just lucky chodes who got to start with their dad’s giving them money from their family apartheid emerald mine (and then stealing emeralds anyway).
The engineers at Tesla have built some amazing stuff, but the CEO who drove them forward for so long has been holding them back for a while now. Time for Musk to go.
As someone that knew engineers that worked at Tesla. Interviewed and turned down an offer there myself.
As soon as I graduated in 2015 and got a job in silicon valley I quickly learned that literally every real engineer hates Elon. Especially the ones that work at Tesla. And they treat their employees on H1 visas like indentured servants.
Awful piece of shit company. But I respect most engineers that work at it. I’m glad the normies outside of the industry are finally catching on to this. For years I had to explain to my normie friends why Elon is a braindead idiot and they would just nod and not really understand why.
I hope people start to understand that “tech bros” and “people that work in tech” are entirely different people. The SF bay area just happens to be filled with both of them.
Very thankful I don’t live there anymore. This isn’t unique to Tesla either. But Tesla is definitely a perfect example for people to point to and understand now.
Most engineers just wanna make shit. And most companies take advantage of a lot of people that enjoy their profession by overworking and exploiting them to an insane degree. Especially H1 visas. Those guys/gals deserve so much more. Tech needs a massive union push.
Honestly, I’m shocked there hasn’t been a shareholder lawsuit about the Tesla board’s continued support of a CEO who is clearly a liability to the company.
I think they’re in a dicey spot because any investor understands that Tesla is way overvalued, due to its status as a meme stock.
So sure, get rid of Musk for the sake of the business, that does sound like obviously the right move…but at the cost of utterly tanking the share price? Not likely. And make no mistake, getting Musk out of Tesla totally reverses the meme stock status.
Edit: better vocab
It’s over valued and Elon owns 51% IIRC. So if they kick him out, he sells it all and tanks the value even further.
He owns 13%. Still significant, of course. But it’s very unlikely he’d sell them just for payback, since that would massively impact his own wealth. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/052616/top-4-tesla-shareholders-tsla.asp
Super dicey spot. I expect they’re watching very closely, though. The moment Musk’s presence becomes a long-term net detractor he’s done. Right now there are too many questions still unanswered - does his DOGE stuff (I can’t bring myself to call it “work”, sorry) and closeness to a not-uncorrupt administration benefit Tesla in some way? Does the Cybercab launch deliver on the hype? And does the new Model Y reclaim the spot of best-selling car in the world, making the case for the production-switchover leading to a drop in sales, or is there no way back to the top?
Money talks, and right now money is watching and listening. Jobs was fired from Apple, remember.
Exactly, Tesla isn’t a blue chip like other car manufacturers, the investors interested in Tesla are speculators.
It’s one of the many problems with idiotic speculative bubbles. You can’t slowly shrink them, they only pop. I might be totally wrong about that, I don’t have an actual background here, but it sure seems to be what I’ve seen in life.
That could be survivorship bias, though. You’re much more likely to hear about a catastrophic bubble burst than a more responsible executive focused on sustainability reining it in to a less volatile state over a period of years.
I was thinking about that, can’t think of any examples off the top of my head, but you’re right, if it were done successfully, it wouldn’t be something most of us would ever talk about or be aware of.
I do think it generally holds though, there’s a reason the word for the phenomena is “bubble” and not something more suggestive of controlled deflation.
He never drove forward shit, modern day Edison would shock and kill elephants if it made him money.
Eh, I know nuanced viewpoints around billionaires aren’t appreciated on the corporate web, let alone the fediverse, but I really don’t think it’s as simple as that. Why did Tesla succeed where other EV companies failed or floundered? And why did Tesla, the company behind the ultra-desirable Model S and its peers, produce the unsellable Cybertruck and fire the entire Supercharger team?
CEOs set the direction and drive the company to deliver on that. And Musk has lost it - from 95% genius and 5% mad to 95% and 5% genius. I honestly feel sorry for him in many ways - which I fully appreciate is a lot easier to say as a non-American right now! He will probably never again know true love or be considered an inspiration to the smart people he seems drawn to. He’s thrown his lot in with a bunch of bastards who would gladly tear down everything he’s built up. I am 100% confident that I will live a happier and more fulfilling life than him, as poor and stressed as I am. Poor sod.
As the edgelord he is, I hope he’ll appreciate his inevitable future epitaph: “You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
Lol that’s not nuance, that’s just fantasy.
There was no 95% genius, he was just a salesman convincing investors that the product line he bought out was going gangbusters. He was right, but he didn’t design the things, he just sold them.
Tesla succeeded because it was founded by and operated by talented people. Tesla is failing because it was acquired by and increasingly controlled by an idiotic narcissist who can’t handle being told “no.”
“Full self driving next year! No? Next year then! No lidar, only cameras! “Crunch” style development! Bulletproof glass! Vegas hyperloop! Stainless steel! Micrometer tolerances!” Everything Tesla did on its own was pretty solid. Everything Musk contributed to design and process was complete and utter shit.
Growth for the sake of growth is the mantra of the cancer cell.
Elon has killed them at company. If when he bought into it, did a little marketing and then backed off and let qualified people design the cars and run the company, Tesla would still be a viable company. Where do they go now? The Cybertruck is a flop on the same scale as the DeLorean, the CEO is a straight up Nazi and Putin collaborator, and they can’t get rid of him or it will kill the company. The choice is either a slow death from keeping Elon, or a quick one from firing him.
Or they can hire me. I can fix it, or at least not do any worse.
Because the two engineers who actually created Tesla made a good product and musky boy immediately snapped it up and made sure to maximize the milking of the ev tax credit system, he’s been fucking it up regularly ever since.
The reason it sucks now is obvious, the people who are good are gone, and musky boy wasn’t one of them.
You treat these parasites as if they are some extraordinary phenomena, they are not. They are humans that shit just like you, sometimes liquid diarrhea. They are by and large not amazing, genius, or even particularly hard working people, they are just lucky chodes who got to start with their dad’s giving them money from their family apartheid emerald mine (and then stealing emeralds anyway).