If you see Ice agents covering their faces, call 911 and report a masked man with a gun.
Please forgive my ignorance but isn’t the police force in USA known for its violence and profiling? Wouldn’t they be “in” on it, too?
What pic are they referencing?
Third term? I’d be glad if we came to terms with it by his 6th term.
Sigh
The same way they have been in denial until now. Why did you wait for trump to comes to terms with it?
Before we elected Trump, the fascism was still nascent. Ur-Fascism as Eco called it.
It’s dishonest to pretend that this is the same level of fascism that we’ve been experiencing for decades. It’s not. Trump and the Heritage Foundation kicked it into overdrive.
Being relatively a child, mostly. Add to that the apparent social progress of Obamas presidency.
We aren’t supposed to accept that law enforcement just does as it pleases, ignoring our civil rights and protections and donning standard identification markers so that each officer can be uniquely identified. But this is not all that new.
Most of the time we don’t know we’re being kidnapped by g-goons or the police are ignoring our rights until they’re doing it, and we can only hope we get our day in court to challenge the arrest.
Since the development of DEA, the US courts have been carving out more and more exceptions to the fourth and fifth amendments of the Constitution of the United States, and by even the 90s (with some big thanks to RICO laws / rulings) we are no longer policed by consent, but by force, because there’s no one around with more firepower to stop them.
This was only noticed by minorities, especially in the 1990s with the crackdowns against street gangs and feral youths. At that point we were seeing ur-fascism feature #8 ( The enemy is both too strong and too weak ) where street gangs are described as feral youths who can’t be negotiated with, while the same gang is an international organized-crime syndicate.
Then the 9/11 attacks happened, and the PATRIOT act was signed, and DHS was formed, and we noticed that some Americans, typically Muslim Arab-Americans, but sometimes Persian-Americans, sometimes Sikhs…really anyone who looked too middle-eastern, got disappeared by LGMs (dudes who look like cops but without personal or department identification, sometimes without the yellow POLICE plates), and rendered abroad to black sites to get tortured. But much of the US overlooked it because we were sore about WTC1 and WTC2.
(some of us screamed like Cassandra that this was a big move towards fascist autocracy, but I digress)
When Obama took over FBI was searching hard for terrorists in US borders but couldn’t find many, and had to invent some (Remember Kellyanne Conway’s Bowling Green Massacre? In the actual Bowling Green event no-one died but two refugees were gaslighted by FBI with a budget into doing some inoffensive para-terrorist work, and entrapped into terrorism charges. They’re still serving time.)
By then, our massive surveillance state was in operation and all of the US’ internet traffic went through NSA, and when there were Islamist militants who were thinking about a plot to suicide bomb an American asset, we’d send a predator drone to literally burn his village down: the CIA drone program killed 50 civilians – including grandmothers and children-- for every person-of-interest neutralized. We learned that while video games don’t make kids violent, making real-world warfare like a video game still meant the operator squeezing the trigger got PTSD. US drone programs had a turnover rate about as bad as German einsatzgruppen (death squads who mass executed villages for betrayal or harboring Jews).
So in 2016 when Trump won, Cassandra over here screamed about the Obama administration disabling all the mass intelligence state and surveillance state assets before Trump could get a hold of them.
We got a break, as Trump pissed off CIA and the rest of the intelligence community, so they weren’t talking for a while, but then, somehow, when he had a Heritage Foundation plan and staffers who knew what structures were in place, we elected him President of the United States for a second time. Even despite his insurrection charges (which were stalled until moot).
So yeah, the previous administrations, knowing this was going to be a problem gave the Trump regime is very own SS / Brownshirt secret police (who behave a lot like the Sicherheitsdienst under Reinhard Heydrich) complete with a concentration camp system that is overflowing due to purge quotas.
During the 2020 George Floyd protests, there was a move to abolish ICE who had been hunting undocumented folk and were sent in to brutalize the demonstrations, which only pissed off more Americans, and there was a movement to Abolish ICE (what was always just a paramilitary department to serve the will and interests of the current administration, id est, a secret police).
We are now suffering the consequences of having failed to follow through.
What is anyone supposed to do? All the checks and balances that are supposed to safeguard against this are non-functional, by choice. The only option is censored from even being mentioned and it means possibly fucking dying.
Only censored on reddit.
Aren’t there a lot more civilian gun owners than law enforcement? I thought that was the idea behind the second amendment
Most gun owners are right wing.
Democratic jurisdictions had “may issue”* laws that allows cops to deny you a gun permit. The Democratic establishment keeps pushing out propaganda that “guns are bad”.
This is a great way to discourage minority gun ownership while promoting gun ownership to conservative white men.
If ranked choice exist, I’d rank Democrats very close to last (only republicans and other right wing parties would be ranked lower)
*Since the 2022 Bruen decision, the US Supreme Court has struck down most “may issue” laws. Ironically the 6 right wing dipshits made a right decision. Broken clock, twice a day.
I thought that was the idea behind the second amendment
No, the idea was that a good militia is all you need to keep a country safe, and that a federal army is a tool for government oppression. That’s what the writers saw all over Europe at the time, so they made sure the fix that in their new country.
And then everyone pretended that wasn’t the case
It’s laughable that anyone in their right mind could think civilians have any chance to stop this with violence. Any attempt even hinting in that direction will shut down the country and martial law will be enacted- and trust me when I say this-
Trump WANTS that to happen. This is the desired outcome for him. I’d imagine the man salivated over footage of Tiananmen Square.
And it should probably be contrast… Trump could read the headline of a newspaper over your shoulder… FROM SPACE, should he so much as want to. What exactly do you think some folks with a few assault rifles is going to do against a military that has the capability to turn entire cities into a fine pink mist?
No. In abject complacency, this bed was made decades ago. And there’s no turning that clock back now. It’s done. This is how shit is going to be.
The only thing to stop this regime from doing what it does, is for another regime to do what it does. So… That’s where we are now.
And frankly, if you think about it- there little worth saving anyway. It’s not like shit was prosperous prior to Trump’s rule. America is a shit-show. Has been for a while now.
Technically you only need one bullet. A lot of this support for Maga in the US hinges on just one guy. Who would replace him? There is no one who will gain as much traction. And remember: as long as dictators die, liberty will never perish.
Next in line is JD “Couchfucker” Vance, which is like Trump, but with more brains (and totally onboard with project 2025); and even if you get him too, the next in line is Christofascist Mike Johnson, who would probably go the shortest route to Gilead if both his predecessors got assassinated.
That’s more shooting luck than anyone will ever get, even if the Secret Service didn’t look too hot when Trump got shot at.
There’s an unending line of people just as in corrupt as he is just waiting for their turn. In a pit such as theirs, there’s no feeling where one snake ends, and the next one begins- so there’s no cutting of the head of it here.
I know it’s not feasible, but that is the argument that second amendment proponents make all the time. I would have expected to see them try, at least
Well, we all knew then it was never about that.
Doing nothing means possibly fucking dying as well.
Might as well go out being Player 2.
The recipe has been in play for over a decade, probably more. People can’t stand up if they have nothing to stand on. Everyone is struggling. What the fuck is fascism if you have to concentrate on just surviving. That’s the whole play. They give us just enough to get by so we can live with no time to think. It’s not denial, it’s an orchestrated structure. The system isn’t flawed, it’s working as intended
Add to that several decades of constant far right propaganda disguised as news, and a massive rightward shift of the Overton Window, and you end up with brainwashed citizens willing to cheer this shit on.
Add to that the systematic dismantling of our public education system to ensure that people don’t have the historical and political context to understand the implications of any of it.
They (The Heritage Foundation and their ilk, I guess) really learned a lot of lessons from the Third Reich… This is the culmination of decades of work for these people, and it is working as designed for the most part.
It’s a very difficult trap to escape from. If not impossible.
Pretty much every other sign at the protests on Saturday openly called the situation fascism. “No fascist USA” was a common chant across America. LA erupted in civil unrest when fascists rolled up and starting trucking people out by the dozen, and people everywhere roared in protest.
Many of us have noticed. Many of us are working on it. We need to organize. We need to band together. We need to convince people that it’s not hopeless, that it’s not just more of the same and that it’s not inevitable.
Together we can change things. We need to do everything we can to grind the wheels of fascism to a halt. Feel free to help!
It’s not even new. They did this to people during 2020 protests. They drove up in mini vans jumped out, grabbed people and pulled them into the mini van and drove off.
There used to be footage of it but I haven’t been able to find it. I think it was happening in Portland and Seattle. At the time there was live stream footage. And it usually happened later in the night as people were cooling off and dispersing.
America hasn’t been what it preaches for half century at least.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/feds-unmarked-vans-portland/
The video snopes talks about I saw. Possibly even live streaming at the time because I was hooked on watching all that. Iirc it was a bronze gold colored minivan and the sliding door opened and 1 or two guys got out masked and just grabbed the person and pulled the protestor in and drove off.
There were a bunch of theories the people they black bagged were undercover / plainclothes cops. Every video I saw were of younger white guys in good shape getting taken off the streets.
Am from Seattle.
Yep, this happened in Seattle and Portland multiple times, just basically black bagging people into unmarked vans by… presumably, plain clothes / “off duty” / half kitted out, face obscured, no visible ID cops.
They typically did this black bagging to people who had not actually broken any laws, but were so effective at keeping protester morale high, and/or were simply causing overwhelming masses of people to defend them from, in many cases, literally entirely unprovoked police assault/brutality.
Most of these were the people they wanted to removr but knew that no charges would actually stick because they had nothing, and then release them 24-72 hours later.
Sometimes they’d black bag / white van people who had actually crossed the threshold into doing something they could actually charge you for, but most of the time, nope.
I know that in Portland the cops actively decided to act as body guards for fascists, and look the other way when they attacked people.
In Seattle, … the cops intentionally started so much shit, assaulting nonviolent people, well we uh… we literally forced them to abandon their major police office in Capitol Hill.
As in, we seiged them. Surrounded the building for days. Eventually they burned a bunch of records and made a stealthy withdrawal in the dead of night.
That police center is only a few blocks from where the ‘CHAZ’ would be set up.
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.
As in, we literally drove out the local police and are thus now autonomous.
… We’ve still never seen the all the actual communications between the police chief and mayor, other internal police records… because the police destroyed them. They destroyed them because they almost certainly outlined numerous violations of the law in terms of orders issued, tactics used, illegal arrests/detainments, bullshit ‘overtime’ overpayments and other financial shenanigans, crimes committed by the police and probably all the way up to the police chief and mayor engaging in a criminal conspiracy.
I feel like this isn’t talked about enough… You guys are badasses for that shit.
I was in Seattle during this. Word was people got snatched here but I don’t recall seeing hard evidence myself. Portland though they for sure got caught kidnapping protesters
i remember this
You’re pretty much already there, bucko. I know it’s a silly image but if you’re only starting to worry now then you got a lot of catching up to do.
That’s the joke though… the picture is from a sketch where one Nazi officer tells another that he’s starting to worry that they’re the baddies, after he realizes that their hats have skulls on them.
Falls asleep … someone sharpies ‘I’M A BIG FAT FASCIST’ across their forehead.
Goes about their life for a month without ever noticing … even when using a mirror.
To be fair, you’re not supposed to accept it. But the fascists sure would like it if you did.
Yep, a higher percentage of Americans support trump than weimar republic Germans ever supported Hitler. Fascist don’t have to engage in electoralism once they securely seize the power of the pulpit.
I’m done caring about America as a whole, I’m creating my mutual defense/support networks with friends and family and preparing for the worse. Democrats are still stuck in thirdway politics as the Reichstag burns to the ground.
The way Hitler took over with such a small support was by dividing the remaining citizens into smaller groups. Unity is our most powerful asset in resistance.
Trump has also failed to obtain abject loyalty of the military, which will prevent him from control by force.
Trump has also failed to obtain abject loyalty of the military, which will prevent him from control by force.
The problem is that also mimics hitler’s ascent to totalitarian control. Even at the height of his power lots of career soldiers and especially sailors were never really ideologically aligned with Hitler. Unfortunately, at the end of the day people in the military follow orders.
That’s not accurate. Germany had a strict top-down chain of military command, hence the Nuremberg trials defense of “just following orders.” After the trials, the US military was redesigned with a break above the Commanding Officer. The CO must verify the legality and constitutionality of orders before giving orders to the troops, just as it’s the responsibility of the troops to refuse to follow illegal or unconstitutional orders. CO’s have the JAGs, or Judge Advocate General Corps, who are legal advisors at the CO’s disposal to ensure they have the resources needed to remain accountable to the law and Constitution.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/german-armed-forces-high-command
Securing your local community is the smartest thing to be doing right now
Yep, my faith in any established political party has been worn thin since the bush era. Right now I’m just working on teaching my LGBT friends how to maintain and shoot a rifle and how to properly stock a go bag.
How long? My guess is that masked unmarked people that don’t even verbally identify themselves will be shot at (and killed?) by someone as they’re walking down the street when law enforcement are attempting to take into custody. My guess is that this shooter will either be killed by the unmarked and masked law enforcement or that person will be arrested and charged.
This is the point when all of the “every day carry” gun folks (and there are a lot of these) will then be faced with the question when they could every use their gun to defend themselves and not be facing charges themselves through no fault of their own.
I think thats when it finally tips enough people into the category to be against trump’s actions.
To avoid armed targets, they have been calling people into court hearings, then they drop charges which allows people to leave. On the way out of the courthouse feds will abduct them.
It’s pretty brilliant. If people become too scared to show up to court, then they get a real judicial warrant which allows them forcibly go into homes.
Some truly evil shit.
In context it looks like a goon squad kidnapping a man.
It’s not out of context, that’s exactly what is happening.
denial isn’t something you can “fix” for people. they have to make that decision themselves. and people are very attached to their own “fascism 100% impossible in america” fantasy
