Rep. Randy Fine (R-Fla.) last week demanded the feds “review every naturalization of the past 30 years – starting with Mamdani. I just think we need to take a hard look at how these folks became citizens, and if there is any fraud or any violation of the rules we need to denaturalize and deport,.”
I have a better idea. Start with Melinia Trump and her parents. Maybe send Baron on his way as well. Then have a good hard look at Elon Musk.
Melunia
My favorite thing about her is that her stupid meme coin is called $Melania without a hint of irony 🤦😄
And the Drumpf family as well.
How about all non-native Americans?
Deport all the corrupt South African billionaires(musk and Thiel)that are threatening democracy all over the world
MAGA is scared of progressives like Mamdani, not wealthy neoliberals like Pritzker or Newsom.
With a neoliberal MAGA gets to keep running the same playbook that’s been working for them. That’s why they fight publicly on social media with neoliberals. But never do shit like this unless it’s a progressive.
MAGA is also scared of the CCP. That doesn’t automatically make the CCP a force for good.
This would be like if I said:
Mice are afraid of cats
And you jumped in and said they may also be afraid of cheese…
They love far right authoritarian regimes, which is what China is.
Like, why did you even make that comment, do you think China is fucking leftwing?
A non-zero amount of people on Lemmy think china is communist and therefore left-wing.
There was a huge exodus of a lot of the content creators from reddit to lemmy. Do you think Lemmy is immune to trolls?
Occams/hanlons razor, imo.
Lots of people are real fuckin dumb.
No True Communism
All bad regimes are right wing. They should be replaced with left wing regimes because they are always good. Counterexamples are not truly left wing.
Whether China is communist or not, I can’t answer. What China definitely is, is right wing.
If they’re right wing they’re not communist, even under the objectively stupid left wing equals libertarian definition.
Authoritarian left.
Authoritarian right.
Chicken wings!
No True
Words mean things. Do you think the DPRK is democratic, or the Nazis were socialist?
Gee, I wonder why there’s no actual communist government…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Central_Intelligence_Agency
Bro I lived in China, they literally operate a capitalist authoritarian regime.
Who owns the land in Shanghai?
Under the European system of monarchies the king owned all land in the kingdom. On that legacy King Charles III and the pope are still the two largest landowners in the world. Were the British Empire and the Roman Empire communist?
E: The US federal government owns about 27% of the land in the US including the majority of Washington DC. State governments own about another 7% and local governments another 2%. That’s more than a third of the country. What’s the tipping point? How far are we from becoming communist based on land ownership?
Left and right is about economics. You can have shit on both sides of that. What’s more important/better are those that seek liberty for society. Authoritarians will be left right or both simultaneously if it serves them. ML and fascists being prime examples.
All bad regimes are authoritarian. All good regimes tend to be flat/granular and answerable. Yes that type of thing tends to be mostly on the left, just not exclusively.
Mamdani is not a CCP member
ROFL
Bro what is an analogy?
Analogies have to make sense. You’re using it to pivot the discussion.
You insult everyone’s intelligence and debase your own. Maybe that’s just your baseline.
What? Mango Mussolini said, “Xi is great and they love each other.” MAGA would like to hold the same power as the CCP.
China is orders of magnitude more of a force for good than the US is.
China becoming hegemon would unironically be amazing for humanity
Lol nope.
I am Chinese American, I do not want either the USA nor PRC becoming some “global superpower”. Any country becoming such influential in the global stage would become extremely corrupt, if it isn’t already corrupt. Looking at how much food safety issues are in mainland China, tofu dreg, lack of labor rights, repressive Hukou system, discrimation and lack of protection for people with disabilities, especially any brain related ones like Autism Spectrums Disorders, filial piety being used as an excuse for child abuse, ultra-conservatism, toxic masculinity, misogyny, obsession with having children and anyone who choose a childfree life is socially ostricized, unmarried people, especially unmarried women, are socially ostricized, etc…
People simping for PRC don’t know anything about it. Its a horrible opprrssive regime. A couple breaks policy and give an unauthorized birth, what does the government do? “This child does not exist”. I didn’t even get legal documents for the first few years of my life until my parents paid the money the government demanded for my birth, as I was the 2nd child, born against policy. Children being punished for their parents so called “crime”, the crime of me existing without a government permission slip… since when the f does government have a say in personall matters, its literally just the opposite of forced births essentially, government overreach in matters they have zero bussiness in. They love to pretend things don’t exist when it suits them. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heihaizi)
Fuck PRC and the CCP.
Unfortunately such a system doesn’t exist. Britain used to be hegemon before world war 2, then the US, and soon the PRC.
I’m not part of the imperial core (US), so I’d rather deal with Beijing than Washington in foreign affairs.
Unfortunately, my country already has all those discriminations, so the only thing that would change for me is dealing with a more cooperative rather than extractive “pole”
I mean, EU influence would be a better path. They have GDPR protections, Right to Repair, much better healthcare than either USA or PRC, generally has a pro-FOSS attitude, much better consumer protections overall.
Yes, but the EU is currently a US vassal and surprisingly weak as a driver of any geopolitical decision.
I wish the EU would have closer relations with the PRC as a balance to being screwed over by the US
I suspect we’re gonna find out one way or the other.
Tell that to the Philippines, or Tibetans.
I imagine the US equivalent list to be much longer.
“Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy” -David Frum,
How DARE this ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT try to Shape US Politics!
Of COURSE I’m talking about
Elon MuskMamdani?I thought you were talking about Alexander Hamilton.
George Washington wasn’t born an American citizen. Think about that. :-/
He also served in the British army as an officer. The same one that tried to destroy the US in his lifetime. Think of that too
I heard that motherfucker had like… thirty goddamn dicks.
holy fuck, i never thought of it like that, god damn broke my brain today.
Idk I don’t like that Mexican, not even American. How’d they let him do the half time show anyways?
Mamdani already admitted to using weed, if they have evidence that he did it before 2018, (or if he admits it), then they could legit just take away his citizenship for using a controlled substance. “Legal weed” is a misconception, btw.
Like holy hell, wtf. For a non-violent victimless crime, the punishment is losing your rights. Absolute insanity. Not to mention, all these bogus “terrorist” or “communist” allegations. Denaturalization has a lower threshold of proof than “Beyond reasonable doubt” and its a civil court, I don’t think they even need a jury. Just a random trump judge can be rubber stamping it.
As a former PRC Citizen and a current US Citizen, this is terrifying to me. My citizenship was derived from my mother, so they could just accuse my mother of being a “Communist” (which she is not) and then also revoke my citizenship (since it was originallt derived from her naturalization), in one sweep, and then probably seize all her financial assets in the US. According to PRC laws, the moment you obtain foreign citizenship, you automatically lose PRC citizenship. So… now what? Statelessness? The fuck?
Besides, I’m literally anti-CCP so these “Communist” allegations are ridiculous anyways. But you know, loopholes, I don’t even need to be involved, they denaturalize my mother and I’m cooked. (I guess maybe I can run to canada and plead for asylum? 🤔)
This is tyranny.
that’s exactly why they made drugs illegal. to prosecute whoever they don’t like. specifically along ethnic lines
Yep war on drugs is and was explicitly racist.
Many laws like that where it’s unevenly applied
how about to stop people from using drugs, no matter who it is?
what is a drug?
tabaco? alcohol? chocolate? where do you draw the line and how do you police it?
if anything drugs are a personal health issue, not a legal issue.
we…have a schedule for drugs…like this isn’t a new concept.
He did weed?? Unforgivable! I mean Trump was pumping pounds of coke up his nose while raping kids on Epstein island, but weed???
Trump is an Adderall addict. Not weed, cocaine or alcohol.
In the 80s trump used cocaine.
He hosted “parties” with cocaine and teenagers. So even if he didn’t partake, he has definitely used it to influence others.
I thought years of Coke is why he needs a diaper.
The only reason I have to doubt this rumor is that Trump does seem to be “tea-total”.
Ikr
It’s the gateway drug.
Why does it have to be before 2018? Isn’t it federally still a controlled substance? Same reason there’s a Supreme Court case on a weed user being stripped of the 2nd Amendment rights.
2018 is when he naturalized. Afterwards, he is immune from deportations for almost any crime (that is, assuming that the administration is obeying the laws and not just try deport citizens unconstitutionally), except for like terrorism or “communist activity” for the first 5 years of naturalization, then after that, they could only denatualize for treason stuff. Specifically, only crimes after the oath ceremony are immune from being considered for denaturalization, meaning, they can use anything they find about criminal activity that happened before the oath happened. They do not need to go through the criminal system, denaturalization happens in the civil court system.
Say, they find a CCTV footage of him smoking weed an hour before he took the oath, he would still not be immune, as citizenship is conferred after the oath is taken.
Oh okay, I misunderstood, I had assumed 2018 was when New York legalized marijuana or something. I didn’t know retroactive denaturalization worked like that. Thank you for helping to inform :)
Besides, I’m literally anti-CCP so these “Communist” allegations are ridiculous anyways.
That’s what a communist would say. 😄
sigh…If it was illegal when he did it yes its a crime. that’s not tyranny that’s the law. also people need to stop downplaying weed as some harmless thing, it really isn’t and the only thing i hope from legalization in my country (Canada) is that more studies can be done to reveal the risks of habitual consumption.
Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug with a high potential for addiction and no known medical use. Legally it’s one of the worst drugs.
Once that bs is in place travesties like this become easier to implement
Schedule 3 actually for a couple years now.
Per your link, it hasn’t actually happened yet. It’s still schedule I.
And this slowness for government action is part of what feeds the tilt toward authoritarianism, the desire to just get things done.
It’s frustrating when the slowness is something you want but we really need to recognize it as a good thing to have checks and balances, a good thing that government can’t usually act on the whims of an orange faced geriatric narcissist or whatever his puppeteers last told him
Oh damn. I could have sworn it went through. Fucking asshats.
Should have probably put “high potential for addiction and no known medical use” in scare quotes or sPoNgEbOb CaSe so people know you don’t agree with it
Marijuana is a schedule 1 drug with a high potential for addiction and no known medical use.
I gotta ask, what are you smoking?
It’s not schedule 1. It’s got a host of benefits of a narcotic without many of the side effects. And cell phones are proven more addictive.
Please don’t drive traffic to the New York Post of all places. Or if you absolutely must, copy the text to the post. I have mixed feelings about that practice, but that company is scum and doesn’t deserve the rage traffic
Hadn’t tried it yet but someone is maintaining an antifascist blocklist. Doesn’t include NY Post but it should.
I remember way back in the day, someone on reddit created a…I’m not sure what you’d call it. A website that linked to shitty sites like the New York Post, and it loaded the link for everyone so they only got one click and everyone could read it.
It’s just two House Republicans, at least so far. Just par for the course of Republicans proposing things like this.
I think they should keep their fucking mouths shut since they haven’t even been in session in over a month. Want to talk about immigration when their shitty middle manager has everyone at home because they’re afraid to swear in the new Dem rep.
It’s all so ridiculous it makes my head spin. This country is a horrible joke. Superpower my ass. We’re going to turn into a paper tiger after all the corruption guts every institution we once held in high esteem.
That pretty much happened already. If something like COVID happened right now the US would not be in a good place at all.
About that… Remember when the CDC was dismantled and all the warning bells for endemics were silenced? Let’s just say it’s gonna be a long winter.
It wasn’t in a good place when COVID hit.
COVID outcomes world-wide were basically worse depending upon the amount of corruption was in your government. I think the US is no exception to that and we had some of the worst outcomes in early COVID because we had the most government corruption.
I know. Didnt want to go overboard and say you’d be utterly fucked, but …you’d probably be well and truly fucked.
They did it with Obama too same shit different target
Different climate though. This has a serious chance to win.
If they find they can’t deport him, they’ll prob start talking about kirking him
thanks, obama (for being american)
Another day in the land of the free
What threat does he represent? Did he form an armed mob that plans to attack the government? Because the precedent now is that such acts are approved political activities.
The threat of being brown and caring about people.
Wasn’t there an entire brand all about that the republicans like? Christianity I think they called it.
Pretty sure they reframed Jesus as a white capitalist.
You need Supply side Jesus https://share.google/wkKRQvTWGjozNepVl
What threat does he represent? Reshaping the democratic to be s real opposition party able to serve americans
Remember when Jared Kushner couldn’t get security clearance during Trump’s first term?
Foxes have been in the henhouse for years now and aside from us on the margins screaming it everyone has blissfully kept their heads in the sand
It’s frustrating.
I’m now convinced that many of my fellow Americans are literally the stupidest people alive.
You also forgot bigoted, racist, sexist and just plain ol’ hate filled to anyone not them.
And honestly, that’s the part about trumpism I hate the most. I hate how many of my fellow brothers and sisters around me turned out to be utterly contemptible pieces of shit, just because someone in power told them it was okay to be racist again
The problem is that too many aren’t.
Zohran’s beating the tar out of a formerly popular incumbent with vastly more money and institutional support. He’s got a huge popular groundswell of support. If he wins, he’s threatening to AOC a number of other regional incumbents, including the current minority leader Hakeem Jeffries.
A lot of the “stupidity” is decades of misinformation, indoctrination, and poisonous fascist propaganda. It is textbook manufactured consent.
Garbage in, garbage out. The smartest minds in history have believed horrible, foolish bigoted things, simply because their brains were pumped full of rot early on.
i wanted to ask this question. please dont bash as its a curiosity. if someone is an illegal immigrant, no matter how long they have been here, do you think its fair to still deport them? im not asking a question and answering it in one post, im just genuinely curious.
You guys are so obvious when you’re JAQing off
…im not jacking off im actually asking a question and being serious. i live up here in canada
https://lemmy.ca/comment/19699162
“I just wive in camada, don’t vote amewicans!”
Fuck off, loser.
JAQ offs really are pathetically easy to spot.
well thanks for letting me know that you don’t want to speak at all. talking like…a baby is a little strange and concerning.
“In 2018 when he was naturalized, he failed to disclose some of the things that he had been doing, one of which was joining the [Democratic] Socialists of America. That’s a communist organization…
What a fucking moron. “Democratic” is in the name, you spoon eating cunt!
Anything they don’t like is communist. Same as it’s always been. Via decades and decades of propaganda, it’s an easy way to paint someone as an outsider.
The hell, centrists are radical communists and socialists in their book. Pretty sure ‘radicals’ was used to describe hippies.
the brackets suggest the word was omitted in the actual quote, certainly deliberately so.
Wtf is this website? And this is WITH an ad blocker
Another Murdoch owned rag.
“evade big tech censors” … by implementing this setting on the biggest tech censor.
I know, right? Why does the NYP hate the Mets so much?
Randy Fine sure walks like a fascist, talks like a fascist and definitely smells like a fucking fascist…
