This is getting weirder. Did they realize they were being shitty on camera?:
“I’m a U.S. citizen, please help me,” she shouted after agents forced her to the ground. “This is unfair. Why are you doing this to me?”
Agents then placed her in a patrol vehicle. She was released a short time later.
“She refused to cooperate and identify herself with all levels of law enforcement there,” said agency spokesman Alan Regalado, noting Monroe County Sheriff’s Office deputies were there. A Herald reporter saw deputies moving drivers along who were slowing down to watch the stop.
After agents removed the woman from her car, they found her driver’s license in the vehicle, ran it through their system and confirmed she is a U.S. citizen, Regalado said.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/florida-keys/article313356223.html
Edit: So basically, she wouldn’t show them her gold star. WTF country are we fucking living in.
Why would they bother with the license if the ICE facial app scan said she was an immigrant? I thought it was absolute and infallible…
Too many eyes
Too many eyes
And not enough brains.
A racist one
Edit: no lie, my phone autocorrected Fascist to racist (I probably fucked the spelling). Accurate both ways
And fascist don’t forget that part!
It’s quite sad to watch the decline of America.
“decline” 🙄
Ya, speaking as an American, America really jumped the boat with Iraq and Afghanistan and the idea of American Exceptionalism. Like I get it, America is the best, but the minute you start seeing results that are not agreeable, change the method. No, these chuckle ducks said we are America and rammed thorugh terrible idea after terrible idea. 'Cause we the best. It’s this mindset that has everybody denying, America was already close to the bottom. Now it seems we trying to be the best at being the bottom. And seeing if that floor can go lower.
It goes all the way back to the founding of the United States. The country itself is built on stolen land and is rotten to the core.
What is wrong with a bunch of wealthy racist land owners creating a country to benefit themselves?
Everything you learn growing up in the US is propaganda and objectively false. There is so much white washing bleach should be the national drink.
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You know how many Nazis were hung in the Nuremberg trials? Like 10. Everyone else was basically acquitted. You cannot rely on systems of power to punish transgressors.
Nothing will happen to them. Nothing happened to the National guard who murdered and stabbed students in 1970.
Sadly most Nazis minus a few higher ups went without punishment. Many scientists even ended up working for the US as part of Operation Paperclip. Like the Civil War, the punishment NEVER fits the crime and these assholes mainly get off scot-free with no repercussions. Which always leads to a resurgence at some point.
Ahh. But that was for Germans. Just following orders is a valid excuse for Americans, as the war crimes trials during the vietnam spanking made clear.
You lovingly forgave the traitors of the civil war, you gave high research positions to nazis after world war II, the signs are not hopeful
Uhg. FTA:
“She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent. This should be a warning sign for MAGAt as they could be preyed by ICE at any time!”
None of that is a reason to believe she’s not an undocumented immigrant. And being brown, curly-haired, not-a-medical-worker is not any reason to believe they’re an undocumented immigrant.
Is this objectionable behavior by ICE? absolutely. But not because of who the victim is. but because there IS a victim. everyone in this country is protected by the constitution, and afforded the rights of due process- which ICE is flagrantly violating the shit out of.
Can we please stop with the special classes of people like this?
It is important because of the reason they cite.
By going after this woman, they’re making it clear to MAGA folk that allowing the rights of minorities to be eroded also removes their own protection. Even racist assholes should be appalled at the civil rights violations being committed.
They’ll just say “some innocents will be inconvenienced.” Remember they don’t understand until they are hurt personally.
And in making that argument, it signals to the racist assholes that the problem being that she’s white, blonde and professional, and therefore the rest are fair game.
which as you say, erodes everyone’s rights. But that’s not particularly important to me. the rights of all are worth protecting even if that weren’t true.
I think it is about opening the eyes of the racist ICE supporters that in fact they are not safe from what they have initiated. Even if they cannot make the jump to being decent human beings caring about all people, they usually care about what happens to themselves.
If MAGA people were able to understand the subtext of this event, they’d be smart enough not to be MAGA in the first place. You might as well try to explain to a dog why drinking antifreeze is bad.
Maga folks have been brainless since 2015
Whoever wrote that doesn’t realize Canadians can also be immigrants.
No, they are appealing to MAGA folks that are picturing getting rid of all the dark skinned people they don’t like.
The people that consider that nuance have already been against the ICE crap, you don’t have to convince those. The only people that can be convinced are those that you need to get their racism aside before they’ll join you. It’s distasteful, but it’s a way to grow the voices condemning this behavior.
Pretending special classes of people don’t exist is just stupidity.
They definitely do exist.
Prison sentences for ICE agents who participate. There is no excuse.
Prison would be too good for these jackboot thugs.
Sure…Sure…
Since when do we have to show our papers to the secret police?
If you are white, around 11 months. If you’re not white… Well, haha… Funny thing that… Umm, let me uhh, ya…
Surely you can’t be serious.
Since you elected a Fascist dictator in 2024?
Only a truly sick society would allow this
It’s been allowed under the laws for a long time, it’s just like everything else been a polite agreement not to do things like that. The constitution isn’t really suited for actors in bad faith in all parts of the government.
But it’s not, simply put if you are not committing a crime you are not required to ID.
Border control is allowed to ask you if you are a US citizen and they have expanded authority at established checkpoints. ICE can only ask you are a citizen. They can request ID, but you have the right to refuse.
Now if they can give probable cause that you are breaking a law then you can be detained and compelled to ID. The current legal standing is that race cannot be used to establish probable cause. Now of course the Supreme Court can over turn that anytime.
But all of this to say this has been the law for decades. ICE and local police departments struggle to understand that you do not have to ID when asked except under specific circumstances. Several departments have escalated to arrests that ultimately get thrown out. You can do a search online and find dozens of examples of cities having to pay a lot of money in settlements over false arrests.
But if you are driving a vehicle you are obliged to produce a driver’s license in every state. You can’t be pulled over just to have your license checked though, there has to be other cause for the stop.
Know your rights and fight for them before they are taken
The current legal standing is that race cannot be used to establish probable cause. Now of course the Supreme Court can over turn that anytime.
Which they did on September 8th.
Source? I’m not doubting you it’s just been a hard year to keep up with everything
Of course it’s a bit more nuanced but there you go.
A society steeped in misinformation and propaganda ultimately embraces fascism
Sick from poison, no doubt, but sick nonetheless. I hope there’s a cure that opens their eyes some day, but it won’t come from a TV screen.
The cure to misinformation and propaganda is critical thinking and the scientific method
We have the tools. We need the talent.
It really isn’t, fascists love using “science” and “rationality” to “prove” their ideologies. You can argue that they’re not doing real science, but their followers will believe it.
The cure to fascism is anarchism. That is the only effective way to prevent it.
All ICE agents should be treated with nothing but disdain and ridicule for the rest of their lives. We need a running list of their identities so they can be ostracized. Monuments should be built at Arlington so they can join Robert E. Lee in their shame. Make it a public urinal, right at the entrance.
Name and shame ice agents. Dean Cain.
Stupidman
These ICE agents deserve the worst possible sentence. Especially as they caused many forced disappearances, which are crimes against humanity.
I hope she sues the fuck out of them.
I hope someone hunts down her attackers one by one, tortured them psychologically, makes them suffer physically and broadcasts it all as a warning to other fascist fuckeits before delivering upon them the fate all Nazis deserve.
They won’t.
That’s why it’s hope.
Nothing would happen. Just a waste of money. And if it came to it, they would just get pardoned.
There is no law in the USA. Trump is the law.
From an outsider looking in, it sounds like more reason to sue or to run to the media. Otherwise, it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy
or to run to the media
Frustratingly, the US media is owned by a small concentration of wealthy people who are being further enriched by Trump’s bullshit.
It’s just too bad there wasn’t one of those responsible gun owners around to prevent terrorists from kidnapping a civilian. Speaking of, where are all of these gun toting Americans that believe they have them to defend America? Fucking cowards.
Jail. For all these ICE assholes and everyone above them.
She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent.
She was eventually let go.
The first one is why the second one happened.
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Surely Florida residents are all aware that the entire state is within the 100-mile freedom exclusion zone.
Had to check the date on the article because this is not the first woman in scrubs on her way to work being yanked out of a car while telling ICE that she is a citizen.
We live in a dystopian hell and for some reason we keep acting like it’s all fine.
