• @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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    -11 year ago

    Criticise Biden all you want. Just recognize despite your criticism, he is a better option than Trump in every way (and no, there is no third option).

    • @bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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      1 year ago

      If these are the only two options in our current system

      1.) god help us

      2.) let’s tear down the system

      • Grayox
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        01 year ago

        Unless class conciousness forms in America tearing the system down would result in a mad max hell scape and probably the end of of the human race because of the acceleration to climate change.

        • PugJesus
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          -11 year ago

          They don’t care. The Great Satan would be dead. That’s all that matters to them.

      • PugJesus
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        -11 year ago

        It’s the only two options in the system because the American people are not as left-wing as your average fucking Lemmy user.

        • @ryathal@sh.itjust.works
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          01 year ago

          Even as someone far more right than the average lemmy user, an 80 year old and an almost 80 year old being the only two options is absurd.

          • PugJesus
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            -11 year ago

            Absurd, yes, but an absurdity that is endorsed, unfortunately, by the voters.

              • PugJesus
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                -11 year ago

                Yes, really. Fuck’s sake. What, you think Trump is using his entire net worth of negative 500 million to bribe a massive group of actors sworn to secrecy and change all the GOP primary outcomes in his favor?

          • PugJesus
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            -11 year ago

            Yeah. God help us. But tearing down the system, while temporarily satisfying as millions die, will not be the solution we want it to be. What emerges will have the exact same problem as long as it is democratic and the American electorate is not changed.

    • FuglyDuck
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      11 year ago

      this like saying eating shit is a better option than starving. One is just slower, but it’s still going to kill you.

      Are you right that biden is better than trump? yes. Are you wrong in that, that is an argument for Biden? absolutely fucking wrong. that is an argument for-not-trump… of which there are hundreds of millions of people in the US that are both not-trump and eligible to president. there are at least “50 other democrats”, per Your-Dear-Leader-Himself that can absolutely beat trump.

      the question isn’t if Biden is better than trump- we’re still in the primaries. The question is, is Biden the best possible democrat candidate. to which that’s an emphatic “Lol, no.”

      • @morrowind@lemmy.ml
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        -11 year ago

        I mean so who’s better than biden at this stage? I wish there was but I can’t think of anyone

        • FuglyDuck
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          11 year ago

          then that is a failure of your imagination.

          There are numerous options, any one of which- with Biden’s support- prove to be a far more popular and viable candidate. or did you think “Blue no matter who” only applies to centrists? Warren, Klobechar, AOC, Buttigieg, Even bernie, Phillips. Newsom. Probably, any candidate more progressive than a stick in the mud would have a better chance than Biden winning.

      • PugJesus
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        -11 year ago

        the question isn’t if Biden is better than trump- we’re still in the primaries. The question is, is Biden the best possible democrat candidate. to which that’s an emphatic “Lol, no.”

        Is he the Democrat candidate with the best chance of beating Trump, is the important question.

        Regarding the importance of name recognition and the low-information status of most of the electorate, that is a ‘sadly, yes’ moment.