I’m tired of this country sucking all the fucking life out of me.
Now put your hand down if you’ve been doing nothing about it since 2016
Im tired of the purely performative nonsense in modern democratic party as well. For the resources and votes that go their way they always find a way to deliver nothing, or actively betray us all. Supporting far rightwing genocide, pissing on progressives and progressive causes, and utterly ignoring the working class in the last election are prime examples of this.
Time to toss the traitors out the door and clean this party out.
My grandpa killed Nazis so his son could become a Nazi
Not just Republicans, conservatives in general. All Republicans are conservative, but many Democrats are as well. That needs to change.
Mamdani shows it’s possible to start the purge of the DNC. We need to continue that. Primary every last conservative. Drive them from the DNC, drive them from politics, drive them from political discourse and public life. Authoritarianism must be crushed, Constitutional rights must be restored, and common sense policies for real people must be enacted. If we can’t achieve that, then all is lost and totalitarian neofeudalism will prevail.
Mamdani shows it’s possible to start the purge of the DNC.
Just worth saying again for the tankies that are very passionate, but seemingly not enough to vote or organize material change. As disappointing as the dems maybe they are still the home of the little progressive wing we have, and we should work into growing it.
Not just Republicans, conservatives in general.
You are correct! I tend to use the two interchangeably when I know that conservatives pushes out to a larger group.
And frankly, anyone who acts like this was just another election where one side lost is only slightly higher on the totem pole than conservatives are.
I’m tired of both Democrats and Republicans destroying the future, and people pretending Democrats don’t because they do it slightly less
I’m tired of rich and/or petty people controlling us. We’re better than this.
We used to be. Currently we are not better than this.
Left or right we’re getting fucked one way or the other. The whole foundation’s been corrupted to the core.
It’s like every debate, any talk of politics is pointless and anything truly reasonable is quickly surpassed overpassed by political “sports team” entertainment while people with real [heartless] willpower continue to do what they do. And I mean that from the streets to the president. The corruption is the same essence and the same evil at any wealth status, education, or social position and all of it is the rotted part of the foundation the country is built upon.
That seems like a completely nihilistic and empty view of politics. What do you even actually think a society that isn’t “corrupt” (or at least is less corrupt) could look like? How can you blame the people with no power at all just as much as the president?
Blaming everyone for everything is basically the same as blaming nobody for anything.
It’s fine to think that the vast majority of people believe in propaganda or are worried about things that don’t matter.
My main problem really is with you saying “any talk of politics is pointless”. It’s just complete doomerism.
Two groups that love to say “Both sides are the same.”
People on the Left who have given up hope.
People on the Right when they get caught being evil.
whereas centrists talk about doing good and then line up behind evil, then fingerwag like everyone else got it wrong.
The current state of the US is because of centrist leadership, so well done buddy.
You don’t really have a left, not at the moment. It’s getting better but oh my god the disasters it took for your shithole country to start to rally…
It is wierd isn’t it. Like having grown up in the middle class I can see why so many ran to the Republicans. It’s a short sighted nostalgia party that preys on people who don’t pay attention or whov been indoctrinated to only watch right wing media.
But the hubris of the Democrats and even just some left leaning voters is kinda wild.
But the real problem is the lack of attention local elections get from average folks. Iv been guilty of this as well, and it buggers me good that I never really learned of their importance till I was already like 34
Nothing makes the Right happier than when someone on the Left says that there’s no hope.
Look at NYC. The Dem candidate for Mayor is being threatened with deportation and arrest for being a Communist.
The fight isn’t over until we give up.
When your “left” is just Diet-Republicans that are less hateful on social issues? Your perspective makes total sense.
And to be fair? That is what the Democrats have served you. And I hate them harder then Republicans hate them. For this reason.
I would like to invite you to a Solution-Oriented American Left in Zohran Memdani, Eugene Debbs, or Bernie Sanders.
This is not the End of what the Left is. This is only where it Starts. we have entire books about the rich American history the Democrats-since-Clinton have entirely abandoned.
You can blame only Republicans which even if they disappeared wouldn’t solve the issue, or you can acknowledge that both parties are corrupted by oligarchs and PACS
Apparently a lot of people don’t mind being oppressed as long as the oppressors have decorum
While I agree with your premise, its very disingenuous to imply a lot of issues wouldnt be solved/improved if Republicans blinked out of existence like a Thanos Snap.
I think you both agree that it’s more complicated than that and it’s a systemic thing effecting both parties. I think he just wrote it differently than you read it
I do agree there are some issues that would not be there without the Republicans, that’s not what I’m saying but rather saying only blaming the Republicans doesn’t solve the real issues we have
Yes they both suck, yes Republicans suck worse, but I think you’re missing some important nuance of exactly how the Democrats suck. Let’s game this out:
If 77 million of the dumbest shitheads ever to walk the Earth were to simultaneously, spontaneously implode tomorrow, everything would change. But especially the Democratic Party. The party leadership would not be able to keep doing what it had been doing. Their whole game requires the Republicans to exist as a credible threat for what’s going to happen if you don’t keep giving them money and settling for whoever they foist on you. They always try to run the furthest-right soulless hack they possibly can, so they calculate what the threshold is that would make enough people say “fuck this, I’m sitting this one out” to throw the race to the Republican, and aim just to the left of that. So, with every single Trump fan or likely R voter gone ( and nothing of value lost ) the entire electorate is now split- pretty evenly on age lines- between the proudly centrist, CNN-watching Biden 2020 primary voters, and the angry progressive left who’s been holding their nose and voting for the lesser of two evils their whole life.
The Democratic party can only pick up the first group. Democratic Socialists take the other group. Nonvoters become a much smaller group, and third parties remain negligible. Now the only way for the Democratic party to survive (Especially since the c-suite and board of directors of most of their corporate donors just went poof, so those companies restructured as co-ops…) is to keep running the only play they know- unilaterally compromise and triangulate with the other party. So what they do now is move as far left as they can get away with without losing their base, who they’re already losing to old age.
Republicans: categorically awful on every single issue
Democrats: Not that
Babies: waaaah I want a competitive party that matches my opinions on every single issue
Find me one major party in the entire world that matches your personal ideals 100%. Spoiler: it doesn’t exist, unless you happen to be a king or dictator of an authoritarian state.
Two party systems means you have two parties with distinct ethics, and one party winning consistently means the country’s ethics will shift over time in the favor of that winning party. So keep spite voting against Democrats and see where that gets you.
Edit: you know why the Democrats are similar to Republicans on so many issues? Because Republicans keep winning elections.
There are leftists trying to gain a foothold in the Democrat party, and some are succeeding (see the latest New York mayoral primary).
Many people ignore primaries, though. You know who does vote in primaries? Older more moderate voters. So progressives tend to lose primaries, then the people who didn’t bother with the primaries complain there aren’t progressive enough candidates in the main elections, so they don’t vote.
If you want more leftist candidates (within the FPTP system), support progressive candidates and show up to the primaries.
It’s not about opinion, there is scientific studies that give you evidence how the democratic interest of the vast majority is not represented, but the rich.
There are also historical theories that explain why this neo-fascism was the inevitable outcome of neoliberal policies, because material conditions degraded. That’s why it’s happening everywhere, not just the US.
The democrats shifted to the right, or away from social democratic policies since Trump not because they are winning strategies - but because they know the alternative for the voter is even worse. So policy not according to being able to win, but being able to gain and maintain power (donors, influence) and wealth.
Policy currently has absolutely nothing to do with ideals, ethics or ideology. Those are just pretty words sold to the masses.
You’ll need drastic changes, a purge and redistribution of wealth and power and the news and social media.
Extreme leftist don’t vote then wonder why a candidate doesn’t try to earn their vote.
Thanks for sharing your feelings with us
I would change Republicans to ‘selfish and narrow-minded individuals’
So … billionaires.
Plenty of people who voted for the republicans are poor as shit. Selfishness doesn’t stop downwards at being rich.
Voting for a party just because you want others to suffer more than you do is pure selfishness too.
Owning class.
How much in your bank account isn’t the point — it is how that money got there. It just so happens that practically nobody ever became a billionaire without the use of exploitation.
Yet, it is not just billionaires but any who make their income through exploiting their private ownership over the tools, land, and resources which make production possible that, under the capitalist system, entitles those “owners” to the excess value of labor, in the form of profits, that are generated by the working class – individuals who must sell their labor to these owners for a wage – under their employment.
There’s street people that pull the same shit as these billionaires. It’s all the same heartlessness. That’s how the game works. The gangs, cartels, and mafias all play by the same methods.
Regular people don’t play the game and that’s why nothing will ever change. Regular people are basically taught not to play the game.
No, regular people play the game every day and it turns them into the same heartless bastards. That’s how the game is designed to work.
People don’t need to play their game. They need to stop following its rules and break the whole goddamn thing to start finally doing something different
It isn’t “gangs and cartels”, it is business owners, bankers, and landlords.
I’m tired of the future being destroyed by billionaires.
Who just so happen to wholeheartedly support the Republican agenda in the US, with the exception of Gates.
You don’t make billions by supporting fair wages, labor unions, health and safety regulations, affordable and accessible healthcare, social programs, socialized infrastructure, and higher taxes on the wealthy.
Billionaires bankroll both parties, what are you talking about
Yes but somehow those are way less agressive at taking away your rights and even try to make the world moderately better. It’s the difference between the guys hacking holes in the boat and the ones not fixing the holes fast enough. Sure, both are letting the boat sink, but there does seem a serious difference.
I quite enjoy that analogy, thank you.
To be fair, there are plenty of billionaires backing the dems too, they’re just a bit more subtle about their intentions, but they are not pioneers of the working class.
Of course the dems getting in in 2024 mightve slowed the roll of fascism, but it would’ve just delayed it rather than solved any of the underlying issues. With the exception of some truly progressive members of the party, the dems are basically just there to uphold the status quo.
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I think you misunderstood the meme lol.
The meme is saying capitalists support both sides (dems and gop) so they come out on top over the working class
Ohhh I thought you were accusing me of being a capitalist because you misinterpreted me as playing the “both sides” argument (this is why i was confused, but i do see people saying this kind of shit online).
I see it now, carry on!
Most of the billionaires that back the republicans also back the democrats, and the democrats also have their fair share of billionaires funding/controlling their candidates all their own. It is a uni-party system that puts on a kabuki show of ‘right vs left’ for their entertainment. Stop buying tickets for it!
Yes exactly!!
I understand the frustration around those saying the parties are the same, I really do, because in the short term, the chaos of the Trump administration would not be happening if Kamala were to get in, but I’m personally extremely frustrated by people putting the dems/kamala on a pedestal as if they were going to do anything to actually help people.
It’s an oligarchy through and through. Kamala wouldve prevented a lot of the mass deportation, but she wouldn’t have prevented the wars across the world, and she would’ve done very little to close the wealth gap between rich and poor.
The only thing that’ll cause real change is for the working class to finally realize that the billionaires are our real enemy and there are a lot more of us than there are of them.
Yeah, people forget that Democrats have fully adopted Republican immigration policy. Look at the actual deportation numbers. They were higher under Obama than under Trump. Trump is just a lot louder about it. And Kamala supported building the border wall.
My optimism for the future is dead at this point. Even if we miraculously have a collective pivot into sustainable practices tomorrow, this train ain’t stopping in my lifetime. Maybe it’ll be better for future generations, I sincerely hope it is and I’ll keep doing what I can to ensure that. But my future is doomed to dealing with the mess that unchecked greed and exploitation has wreaked upon our world.
Yeah, this is kind of my attitude as well, sadly. I’m a younger millennial, but I feel I’ve been around long enough to determine we’re truly just a pot of boiling crabs dragging everyone else down to try to save ourselves.
I think one of the hardest parts of getting older, at least for me, is watching the childlike wonder and hope for the world within yourself slowly vanish. I’ll never stop fighting the good fight, but the light has definitely died in my heart. Honestly, sad as fuck.
Hope is a toxic ideaology. It does nothing but destroy us, like a cheap steak in hydrofluoric acid.
It stays our hand, and slows our response.
Hope needs to die.
and be replaced by an unbridled, mindless, blackout rage.
Let me introduce sociopath theory.
Their lack of morals allows them to rapidly accumulate money and power. Once entrenched, they continue amass wealth and power far beyond what is healthy for functioning societies. People don’t check this accumulation because individually they are moral humans who it pains in the extreme to seriously injure another human on their own (Luigi is an extreme exception driven by unbearable pain). But, when it gets bad enough, the poor, the losers in the sociopath race, normally isolated, begin to bond together to protect themselves from predation. This bonding together decreases the individual emotional burden of doing violence. People mob up … emboldened by those around them. At a certain point, it goes critical and elite heads roll far and wide.
At that point, the sociopaths are purged and the moral can go back to some form of just governance for a decade or two until the sociopaths begin to claw it all back.
Que the “ableist” hate mail.
I wish america was more like the french, when it came to actually rioting in the streets and burning the bitch down when shit goes against what the people want.
Progressives who refused to vote for any genocider of either party are those french.
Together with 24/7/365 capitalist propaganda fire hosed into our faces from the time we’re born.
Blame the 30 yr mortgage.
Crabs don’t need to boil to hold each other down, they’re just assholes.
Like humans.
True! I was conflating a bucket of crabs and boiling frogs. I guess we’re both though, so it’s pretty fitting.
The frog thing is less fun to me when I learned it’s less accurate, apparently they can sense it warming and just hop tf out of dodge when it gets warm
We have much to learn from the frog sensei…
Spoiler: It won’t. The wealth gap inequality will continue to grow. Most of the world will essentially become slaves to the corporations and wealthy elites.
Why are people downvoting you? People are in denial and shock I guess. America is over.
Unfortunately, shifting to the right is a global trend. It’s just starting.
Unbelievable that there are some Americans in politics who wake up every day and consciously decide they want to destroy everything around them.
It’s unbelievable that half the voters wanted it. It’s betrayal.
Unbelievable that there are some Americans in politics who wake up every day and consciously decide they want to put their foot on someone else’s neck so that they can feel superior, even if it means they are worse off.
Ftfy
Unbelievable that there are some Americans in politics that get off so much on being told ‘you owned a lib’ that they vote against their own interest and inspire baseless fear of normal human needs and rights.
Yes, thank you! You got it.
Unbelievable that the rest of the Americans would rather just sit there and take it than risk literally anything.
I just want free public transit, affordable housing//rent/food/bills and some free time to actually enjoy being alive, is that too much to ask?
Republicans: Yes, you entitled whiny millenial. Also, no one wants to work. Also you are probably a groomer.
You filthy communist.
-actual nazi magats
Fill your bottle with one hand while working with the other. Don’t bother washing your hands, they’ll return the merchandise you’re mailing out anyway.
/s if you really need it
How about tired of the uni-party system! We need real change, politicians who care about the workers, not corporations and their oligarchs.
Right on, no argument here.
